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The Creevey Papers
Thomas Creevey to Elizabeth Ord, 20 October 1820
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Introduction
Vol. I. Contents
Ch. I: 1793-1804
Ch. II: 1805
Ch. III: 1805
Ch. IV: 1806-08
Ch. V: 1809
Ch. VI: 1810
Ch. VII: 1811
Ch. VIII: 1812
Ch. IX: 1813-14
Ch X: 1814-15
Ch XI: 1815-16
Ch XII: 1817-18
Ch XIII: 1819-20
Vol. II. Contents
Ch I: 1821
Ch. II: 1822
Ch. III: 1823-24
Ch. IV: 1825-26
Ch. V: 1827
Ch. VI: 1827-28
Ch. VII: 1828
Ch. VIII: 1829
Ch. IX: 1830-31
Ch. X: 1832-33
Ch. XI: 1833
Ch. XII: 1834
Ch XIII: 1835-36
Ch XIV: 1837-38
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“House of Lords, Oct. 20, 1 o’clock.

“. . . Having said that Brougham had made up his mind not to examine Oldi and Mariette, let me say why; so that, if you keep my account of this trial, posterity may know what the Queen’s counsel really thought of his client—a very rare thing to know and in this case, quite authentic. Denman, Lushington, Tindal and Wilde are all decidedly for calling both Oldi and Mariette; Brougham has no doubt of the fidelity of these witnesses, and of their perfect belief in the Queen’s innocence; but he is equally sure that the villainy of these judges—the Lords—would inflict a persecution of two days’ examination upon each of these witnesses, and, from the experience of their
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monstrous injustice in raising such diabolical inferences from admissions so natural and innocent as those of so capital a witness as Howman was, or from the rambling imbecility of
Flynn, he dare not trust these foreign women to the same ordeal. All this I had from Brougham last night. He told me, too, as he has done before, that, altho’ he was in possession of many circumstances unfavorable in appearance to the Queen, which were not known to me, he did nevertheless believe her to be compleatly innocent—in direct opposition to his former sentiments; and that, furthermore, should this Bill ever come to the House of Commons, he will then, being no longer in the character of her counsel, take an opportunity of declaring, upon his honor as a gentleman, his sincere belief in her innocence.*

“I had a very agreeable day at the Derbys yesterday, as indeed it always is there—the Fortescues, Darnleys, Kings and Bennet. To-day I dine at Sefton’s with Brougham. . . . Holland House is the only place I have heard of as being in a state of rage at my attack on Cole.† . . . A division has just taken place, when Liverpool and our people beat the Chancellor‡ and his by 122 to 79; but Grey, with his usual candour, has carried an amendment to Petty’s§ motion, that in my belief, and with such a villain as Powell to deal with, will make the motion perfectly nugatory. Grey’s conduct throughout this business has been most injurious to the Queen, her counsel and her cause.”