The Creevey Papers
Thomas Creevey to Elizabeth Ord, 6 November 1820
“House of Lords, 6th Nov., 2 o’clock.
“. . . Lord
Lansdowne finished his speech in the very first rate style . . .
since then the speakers against the Bill have been the Duke of Somerset, Lords Enniskillen, Howard of
Effingham, de Clifford,
Grantham, Stafford and Calthorpe. The
speakers for the Bill have been the Dukes of Athol and Northumberland, and Lord
Grenville is now speaking on the same side; but, thank God, he
comes too late. . . . Old Stafford uttered an opinion that
is worth ten votes at least in the H. of Commons. He made no doubt of the Bill
being lost in the H. of Commons, and that then there was an end of the
Constitution. It never can come to the H. of Commons, by God! That little chap
de Clifford is an agreeable surprise. He is such a
cursed Queen-hater that we always calculated upon his being for the Bill. We had a most agreeable dinner yesterday at
Brooks’s—Fitzwilliam,
Grey, Cowper, Norfolk, Jersey, Thanet, Albemarle—and, in short, 17 of us. Grey
was all
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good humour and gentleness, and I had
great pleasure in petting him—abusing him at the same time for all his
palaver with Liverpool and Eldon, particularly the latter. . . . If you
could see little Barny* with me you would say it was
almost too much. Every day at the rising of the House he comes regularly to ask
me to let him walk up with me, and so we do. At other times he is equally in
pursuit of me. He wants me very much to let him take me a little tour with him
to shew me Arundel, &c., &c. He wants me, too, to dine with him at
Dowr. ‘July’s’ to-day, but I shall do no such thing. I dine
at Ferguson’s.
“Brooks’s, 5 o’clock.
“All is over—that is with the 2nd
reading—123 for the Bill and 95 against it—leaving a majority for
the Bill of 28 only. This is fatal. Eleven Bishops voted for it, and the
Archbishop of York† alone
against it. I am delighted the young Duke of
Richmond‡ voted against it. The other curious persons on
the same side were Lords Bath, Mansfield, Bagot, Plymouth, Amherst, Delawar, Dartmouth,
Enniskillen, Egremont, Audley, &c.,
&c. . . .”
James Abercromby, first baron Dunfermline (1776-1858)
The son of Lt.-Gen Sir Ralph Abercromby; he was MP for Midhurst (1807), Calne (1812-30)
and Edinburgh (1832), judge-advocate general (1827) and speaker of the House of Commons
(1835-39); he was raised to the peerage in 1839.
William Pitt Amherst, first earl Amherst (1773-1857)
The nephew and heir of Jeffrey Amherst, first Baron Amherst; educated at Westminster and
Christ Church, Oxford, he was envoy to Peking (1816-17), governor-general of India
(1823-28), created earl of Amherst in 1826.
William Bagot, second baron Bagot (1773-1856)
The son of William, first Baron Bagot (d. 1798); he was educated at Westminster and
Christ Church, Oxford; he was an antiquary who published
Memorials of the
Bagot Family (1824).
Sir Ronald Craufurd Ferguson (1773-1841)
Scottish officer who served in India and fought with a Highland brigade; he was MP for
Dysart (1806-30) and Nottingham (1830-41).
William Wentworth Fitzwilliam, second earl Fitzwilliam (1748-1833)
The nephew of the Marquis of Rockingham and lifelong friend of Charles James Fox and Lord
Carlisle; he was president of the Council (1806-07) and lieutenant of the West Riding from
1798 to 1819 when he was dismissed for his censure of the Peterloo massacre.
George Gough-Calthorpe, third baron Calthorpe (1787-1851)
The son of the first baron; he was educated at Harrow where he was a contemporary of
Byron, and St. John's College, Cambridge; he succeeded his brother in the title in
1807.
George Granville Leveson- Gower, first duke of Sutherland (1758-1833)
The son of the first marquess of Stafford (d. 1803); he was one of the wealthiest men in
Britain with an annual income of £200,000; his program for Scottish clearances and
resettlement was widely unpopular. He was created duke in 1833.
William Wyndham Grenville, baron Grenville (1759-1834)
Educated at Eton and Christ Church, Oxford, he was a moderate Whig MP, foreign secretary
(1791-1801), and leader and first lord of the treasury in the “All the Talents” ministry
(1806-1807). He was chancellor of Oxford University (1810).
Charles Grey, second earl Grey (1764-1845)
Whig statesman and lover of the Duchess of Devonshire; the second son of the first earl
(d. 1807), he was prime minister (1831-34).
Edward Venables-Vernon Harcourt, archbishop of York (1757-1847)
The son of George Venables-Vernon, first Baron Vernon, educated at Westminster and
All-Souls College, Oxford; he was prebendary of Gloucester (1785-91), bishop of Carlisle
(1791-1807), and archbishop of York (1807-47).
Bernard Edward Howard, twelfth duke of Norfolk (1765-1842)
Educated at the English College at Douai, in 1815 he succeeded his third cousin, Charles
Howard, eleventh duke (d. 1815), and took his seat in Parliament after passage of the Roman
Catholic Relief Bill of 1829.
John Murray, fourth duke of Atholl (1755-1830)
Son of the third duke (d. 1774); he was a Scottish representative peer (1780-86),
Governor-in-Chief of the Isle of Man (1793), and Lord-Lieutenant of Perthshire
(1794-1830).
Hugh Percy, third duke of Northumberland (1785-1847)
The son of the second duke (d. 1817), he was educated at Eton and St John's College,
Cambridge, and before succeeding to the title was a Tory MP for Buckingham (1806),
Westminster (1806), Launceston (1806-07), and Northumberland (1807-12). He was
lord-lieutenant of Ireland (1829-30).
John Scott, first earl of Eldon (1751-1838)
Lord chancellor (1801-27); he was legal counsel to the Prince of Wales and an active
opponent of the Reform Bill.
Edward Adolphus Seymour, eleventh duke of Somerset (1775-1855)
The son of the tenth duke (d. 1793), educated at Eton and Christ Church, Oxford he was an
accomplished scholar elected to the Royal Society in 1797, the Society of Antiquaries in
1816, and the Linnean Society in 1820. From 1801 to 1838 was president of the Royal
Literary Fund.
Thomas Thynne, second marquess of Bath (1765-1837)
The son of the first marquess (d. 1796); he was educated at Winchester and St. John's
College, Cambridge, and was Tory MP for Weobley (1786-90) and Bath (1790-96).
George O'Brien Wyndham, third earl of Egremont (1752-1837)
Of Petworth; educated at Westminster School, he was an art collector and patron of J. M.
W. Turner, a lover of Elizabeth, Viscountess Melbourne, and the father of four children by
Elizabeth Fox. He is thought to have fathered several of Lady Melbourne's children also,
among them the prime minister William Lamb.