The Creevey Papers
Thomas Creevey, Journal entry, 26 September 1809
“26th.—Sent on to
Newcastle from Gosforth and ascertained the Messenger had been at Howick, and
was returned with letters from Lord Grey,
but that he himself was not gone to London, so we proceed to Howick.
“Nothing said before dinner of the Messenger, but
after dinner Lord Grey mentioned that a
Messenger had brought offers from the Ministers to him, and that similar ones
had been sent to Lord Grenville, and that
he (Lord Grey) had sent a refusal. Does not mention what
the offers were, but that the Ministers talked of an extended administration.
Conversation about Castlereagh’s duel
with Canning. Lord
Grey thinks Castlereagh in the right: that
his cause of complaint against Canning was the latter
having told the King and Duke of Portland three months ago he could not
remain in the Cabinet with Castlereagh, and yet never
mentioning this to Castlereagh, but living apparently well
with him. Then the cause of the duel—Lord Grey
considers Canning’s resignation owing
to his not being able to succeed
Duke of Portland as Prime Minister. Curran the Irish Master of the Rolls,
Geo. Ponsonby and Frederic Ponsonby (Lady Grey’s two brothers), Lord Grey
and myself the party after dinner. . . . Lord Grey
decidedly against the plan of the campaign in Holland, and acquits Lord Chatham of all blame in the execution of it,
and still more decided in reprobation of Lord
Wellington’s Spanish campaign and of the conduct of
Ministers about the battle of Talavera.
“Lord Grey very
shy and artificial with me about politicks—makes frequent mention of
Sir Francis Burdett and the No-Party men, and says, in answer to an observation of
mine that the present Government can never last, however patched up, that in
the present state of the House of Commons any Government may stand. I consider
these observations as meant at my conduct last session, for doing all I could
to expose what I thought the meanness and folly of his (Lord
Grey’s) party, of which I had till then been one. I take,
however, no notice of these observations, as it is not necessary I should apply
them to myself; and I am more convinced than ever that I was right last
session, and that the leaders of Whig party were to the last degree
contemptible. I am in no way committed with Sir Francis
Burdett or any views of his. I know him well, and think upon the
whole unfavorably of him, but will not say so to Lord Grey
without his giving me a fair and proper occasion for so doing.
Sir Francis Burdett, fifth baronet (1770-1844)
Whig MP for Westminster (1807-1837) who was imprisoned on political charges in 1810 and
again in 1820; in the 1830s he voted with the Conservatives.
George Canning (1770-1827)
Tory statesman; he was foreign minister (1807-1809) and prime minister (1827); a
supporter of Greek independence and Catholic emancipation.
John Philpot Curran (1750-1817)
Irish statesman and orator; as a Whig MP (from 1783) he defended the United Irishmen in
Parliament (1798).
William Wyndham Grenville, baron Grenville (1759-1834)
Educated at Eton and Christ Church, Oxford, he was a moderate Whig MP, foreign secretary
(1791-1801), and leader and first lord of the treasury in the “All the Talents” ministry
(1806-1807). He was chancellor of Oxford University (1810).
Charles Grey, second earl Grey (1764-1845)
Whig statesman and lover of the Duchess of Devonshire; the second son of the first earl
(d. 1807), he was prime minister (1831-34).
John Pitt, second earl of Chatham (1756-1835)
The eldest son of the elder Pitt and favourite of George III; as lieutenant-general he
led the Walcheren expedition (1809).
Hon. Frederick Ponsonby (1775 c.-1849)
The son of William Brabazon Ponsonby, first Baron Ponsonby, and brother of Mary
Elizabeth, who married the second Earl Grey; he was MP for Galway Town (1811-13).
Hon. George Ponsonby (1774-1863)
Of Woolbeding in Sussex; he was the son of William Brabazon Ponsonby, first Baron
Ponsonby, and was MP for County Kilkenny (1806), County Cork (1807-12), and Youghal
(1826-32).