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The Creevey Papers
Henry Brougham to Thomas Creevey, 6 April 1813

Vol. I. Contents
Ch. I: 1793-1804
Ch. II: 1805
Ch. III: 1805
Ch. IV: 1806-08
Ch. V: 1809
Ch. VI: 1810
Ch. VII: 1811
Ch. VIII: 1812
Ch. IX: 1813-14
Ch X: 1814-15
Ch XI: 1815-16
Ch XII: 1817-18
Ch XIII: 1819-20
Vol. II. Contents
Ch I: 1821
Ch. II: 1822
Ch. III: 1823-24
Ch. IV: 1825-26
Ch. V: 1827
Ch. VI: 1827-28
Ch. VII: 1828
Ch. VIII: 1829
Ch. IX: 1830-31
Ch. X: 1832-33
Ch. XI: 1833
Ch. XII: 1834
Ch XIII: 1835-36
Ch XIV: 1837-38
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“Brougham, Sunday, 6 April, 1813.

“. . . Now on this question [that of bringing in a declaratory bill regarding the Princess of Wales? once for all, do not listen to Sam [Whitbread]. He has no head. Depend upon it he has not. He is good for execution, but nothing for council, except, indeed, as far as his courage and honesty go, which are invaluable, but not of themselves sufficient. The idea of the galleries being shut would frighten him to death, for he speaks very much with an eye to the newspapers. Now my belief is that if a good and popular ground for shutting them could be got (as this may be made) a most prodigious step would be gained. But, it will be said, why degrade the House in this way? I reply, if the House is base enough after making a row 3 years ago about its privileges, when they were to be used against the people, now to yield up everything like the privileges which can really serve the people, it deserves to be brought into every sort of contempt, and the sooner the people quarrel with it, the better. Perhaps you may think my desire too romantic a one—viz. to see a whole session pass with shut doors. I certainly do wish devoutly to see it, knowing the price we pay for reading debates; but at present I am only speaking of such a shutting as may produce acquiescence in the Bill, which will become necessary should the Courts decide against us. While mentioning Whitbread, I must say that his two capital blunders in the Pss. business certainly don’t tend to raise my notion
of his judgt. . . . Pray don’t forget to let me know what the Mountain mean to do about the Livery dinner.”