The Creevey Papers
        Thomas Creevey to Elizabeth Ord, 11 September 1834
        
        
          
        
        
          
        
       
      
      
      
      
     
     
    
     “Stoke, 11th. 
    
     “. . . Lord Grey
                                    and his family were at Windsor from Monday last till Wednesday, during which
                                    the King took him into his own room and had
                                    a conversation of two hours’ duration with him, in the course of which he
                                    was pleased to say that he was actually miserable since he had lost his
                                    services, and he did not see how or when he was to be otherwise. He spoke of
                                        Ld. Melbourne as liking him, but that
                                    he had no position either at home or abroad to be compared with Lord
                                        Grey, and that as to the rest of the Government, they were nobody. When our Billy said
                                        Ld. Melbourne was nobody at home or
                                        abroad, compared with Lord Grey, he touched the
                                    real thing, which these presumptuous puppies will feel before they are much
                                    older. Palmerston never signed a dispatch
                                    that had not been seen and altered by Lord
                                        Grey. Do you suppose he will ever submit to this from
                                        Melbourne? or, if he did, what does
                                        Melbourne know of it? . . . I wish
                                        Grey may let to-night pass without giving way to any
                                    vindictive feelings, which I learn from Sefton are gaining upon him hourly. Sefton
                                    dined at Talleyrand’s on Friday
                                    with Grey; 
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| 1834.] | LORD GREY’S OPINION OF BROUGHAM. | 287 | 
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                                    mistake about the day, Brougham came in
                                    late to dinner; but Lord Grey would not speak to him.
                                    Having taken leave of the Government in the generous way he did in the House of
                                    Lords, I can’t bear his showing any subsequent resentment. . . .
                                        Brougham already chuckles to
                                        Sefton at the influence he has got over
                                        Melbourne, compared with what he had over
                                        Grey; but our Earl [Sefton] is in
                                    a mighty combustible state upon these matters, and will, to all appearance, on
                                    some early day burst out upon Beelzebub. He considers
                                        Grey as having been basely sacrificed by a low-lived
                                    crew, not worthy to wipe his shoes, and that the Arch-fiend
                                        Brougham has been all along the mover of this plot for
                                    his own base and ambitious, selfish purposes.”
 and by some
                                    mistake about the day, Brougham came in
                                    late to dinner; but Lord Grey would not speak to him.
                                    Having taken leave of the Government in the generous way he did in the House of
                                    Lords, I can’t bear his showing any subsequent resentment. . . .
                                        Brougham already chuckles to
                                        Sefton at the influence he has got over
                                        Melbourne, compared with what he had over
                                        Grey; but our Earl [Sefton] is in
                                    a mighty combustible state upon these matters, and will, to all appearance, on
                                    some early day burst out upon Beelzebub. He considers
                                        Grey as having been basely sacrificed by a low-lived
                                    crew, not worthy to wipe his shoes, and that the Arch-fiend
                                        Brougham has been all along the mover of this plot for
                                    his own base and ambitious, selfish purposes.” 
    
    Henry Peter Brougham, first baron Brougham and Vaux  (1778-1868)  
                  Educated at Edinburgh University, he was a founder of the 
Edinburgh
                            Review in which he chastised Byron's 
Hours of Idleness; he
                        defended Queen Caroline in her trial for adultery (1820), established the London University
                        (1828), and was appointed lord chancellor (1830).
               
 
    
    
    Thomas Creevey  (1768-1838)  
                  Whig politician aligned with Charles James Fox and Henry Brougham; he was MP for Thetford
                        (1802-06, 1807-18) Appleby (1820-26) and Downton (1831-32). He was convicted of libel in
                        1813.
               
 
    Charles Grey, second earl Grey  (1764-1845)  
                  Whig statesman and lover of the Duchess of Devonshire; the second son of the first earl
                        (d. 1807), he was prime minister (1831-34).
               
 
    William Lamb, second viscount Melbourne  (1779-1848)  
                  English statesman, the son of Lady Melbourne (possibly by the third earl of Egremont) and
                        husband of Lady Caroline Lamb; he was a Whig MP, prime minister (1834-41), and counsellor
                        to Queen Victoria.
               
 
    
    
    Henry John Temple, third viscount Palmerston  (1784-1865)  
                  After education at Harrow and Edinburgh University he was MP for Newport (1807-11) and
                        Cambridge University (1811-31), foreign minister (1830-41), and prime minister (1855-58,
                        1859-65).